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According to the specs recordings are split into separate files if they exceed 4GB. Also, this happens with 4K30p after 6 minutes, meaning that the bit rate for the 4K must be about 90 mbps (a bit less for 24p, which cuts out after 7 minutes). They also mention that recordings can end sooner if the processor overheats, suggesting that overheating could be a limiting factor.


Focusing is contrast detect only, not phase detect, so focusing is likely to be slower than the cameras most of us use now.
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I think the P1000 will be the camera to use for small bird shots since you need tons of magnification to have the bird fill the frame like this bird with P900 @2000 mm eqiv.
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MY FZ2000 is my least used camera,not enough reach for wildlife compared to the FZ82 or GH5 ,the GH5 with my 300mm and 1.4x extender the PQ hold up with ETC and 2x digital,some P1000 films i have watched on youtube look pretty good,i may consider part exchanging the FZ2000 for the Nikon.
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I have been a superzoom fan since my first one a Canon SX30 IS back in 2010.


After that I purchased the Nikon P500 with 22.5-810mm zoom but did not care for the video mode so never used it much.



I might get the P1000 if the user reviews are great when it comes out in the fall and Sony or Panasonic don't come out with something better with phase detect AF and a wider FOV like the P500's 22.5mm but 2,000mm + on the long end.
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I suspect when a first real world test comes out we would see its video quality generally on par with the current B700 which also shoots up to 4K/30p. It may or may not have a new encoder but it is very unlikely the overall video quality could match the likes of its closest competitors e.g. Panasonic FZ82, FZ300/330 or Sony HX400V, HX350 (at 1080p). It sure won't be at the same level as the 1" sensor Sony RX10III/IV. The video AF also may or may not improve from what the P900 has, which is contrast detect only and quite slow to cope with the ultra-tele range. It may not necessarily be the deficiencies in the AF system but rather the drop in the contrast level towards the tele end in the all the ultrazooms of this type that makes it difficult for any contrast detect-only AF system to lock onto the subject.

That said, the 3000mm reach in a portable all-in-one package still stands out. I don't think a similar camera with superior IQ such as the Sony RX10III or IV could match it if the maximum 960mm image size (after optical + in camera digital zoom) is further cropped and zoomed in in post so that the subject's size is the same as that from the P1000's 3000mm focal length.
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It's amazing how clueless people are on DPR.

The actual FL of the lens is 4.3-539mm so to have a 4.3-539mm constant F2.8 it would be much larger than the $26,000 Sigma APO 200-500mm f/2.8 or even the $2,200 Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8

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Another clueless person.
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The downside is that it can’t go above 125 x or wider than 24mm. So if you are zooming in from afar on an animal in the wild, there’s only so far the camera will take you. If you want to snap a super-wide angled shot of a mountain range, you can’t. And there’s no macro lens capability. The minimum focus distance is 1cm.
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The P1000 has a 250x 6000mm eqiv dynamic fine zoom like the RX10 III/IV 2x clear zoom and 1cm macro close focus.
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This camera is a great advert for global shutters.
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I pre-ordered the P1000 since it is a huge improvement over the P900 that my brother has with much better EVF, 4K vs 1080p, longer range and wireless remote option for zoom and video controls. Here is a 4K P1000 moon video compared to my Samsung NX1 4K moon video from 2015 with 1480mm F6.3 Celestron C9.25 telescope. It is not as good but better than I could get with my RX10 III.


The RX10 III (220mm ) has a maximum FL with 2x clear zoom of about 1200mm and the P1000 (539mm) has a 6000mm FL with 2x dynamic fine zoom.


The P1000 has ED and Super ED glass ( 17 elements in 12 groups , 5 ED lens elements and 1 super ED lens element).

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For video shooting I'm sure this camera will be great fun that, to be honest, I've not had with any sort of video gear at any level and at any price for quite a while. However, at the 2000-6000mm range where I plan to shoot this thing at I am not delusional this camera would be either a practical or easy point and shoot experience. To avoid gello or wobbles, not to mention a "wandering around" video framing I would sure need all the help I can get in the field. A good in-body stabilization can only do so much. Not sure if my usual Manfrotto monopod with foldable 3 supporting feet and a lightweight 701HDV head can hold up. If not, I may have to upgrade at least the head. As for any long range shooting with enough time and means to carry a tripod, shooting on a tripod is not only preferred but seems necessary. We have not only wind to fight but also how we start/stop recording, employing extremely smooth panning or tilting move technique will be absolutely critical. That's why this camera looks like great fun.
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My Sony RX10 III on my HD tripod with video head.
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For video shooting I'm sure this camera will be great fun that, to be honest, I've not had with any sort of video gear at any level and at any price for quite a while. However, at the 2000-6000mm range where I plan to shoot this thing at I am not delusional this camera would be either a practical or easy point and shoot experience. To avoid gello or wobbles, not to mention a "wandering around" video framing I would sure need all the help I can get in the field. A good in-body stabilization can only do so much. Not sure if my usual Manfrotto monopod with foldable 3 supporting feet and a lightweight 701HDV head can hold up. If not, I may have to upgrade at least the head. As for any long range shooting with enough time and means to carry a tripod, shooting on a tripod is not only preferred but seems necessary. We have not only wind to fight but also how we start/stop recording, employing extremely smooth panning or tilting move technique will be absolutely critical. That's why this camera looks like great fun.

It will have similar or better stabilization than the P900, which is VERY stable (just don't try to pan though). It uses a combination of lens and software stabilization.


Video will not be as good as other cameras though, dynamic range is relatively poor and the compression used is fairly crude, resulting in lots of artifacts, especially if you edit it in post. I hope they have improved the quality of the encoder, because the one used in the P900 is pretty poor. One thing the P1000 does do however is produce clean uncompressed video through the HDMI port. I plan to get a Ninja V as well to play around with, so that should help with IQ on the P1000 arrives (I pre-ordered it as well).


Because of the software stabilization use in video, you getter better IQ if you turn it off and lock the camera down on a sturdy tripod (with the P900, I expect the same will apply to the P1000).
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My Sony RX10 III on my HD tripod with video head.
This is another thing I'm curious to know about if there would be any sort of tripod mount adapter included with the camera that allows the camera to be mounted on a tripod with the mounting socket closer to the center of gravity of the camera with the lens fully extended. Normally with this type of superzoom cameras you could get by with most of the camera's mass shifting further forward of the head since this mass would not affect the balance of the head's movement much but both the mass and the degree of extension of the lens on the P1000 are unprecedented. Mounting the camera straight onto a video head using the body's tripod socket would be too front heavy and could affect the stability of the setup either when locked down or when moving the head.

Perhaps a head with a counterbalance mechanism is a must if there is no adapter to offset the placement of the camera backward. This will add more weight to any the light shooting rig since most compact fluid heads with smooth enough movement don't usually have an effective counterbalance mechanism.
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I have used my full frame Sony VG900 camcorder with my 400mm ED scope and Pentax ED spotting scope and only used a support for the spotting scope since it was so long. The P1000 should not be a problem with my HD monopod or tripod.





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Another review (I hope you understand Dutch)

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I wish they would upload a 4K UHD review.
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Moon at 2400mm eqiv. with the P1000 ! Why drag the telescope out when I could get this !
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Supposedly from the P1000 (4K footage)



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The zooming on that praying mantis absolutely kills it.
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A marmot intent on eating. Shooting freehand in 4K. No post processing. Three peaks of Lavaredo

It was handheld !

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P1000 stills from 60mm eqiv. to 3000mm eqiv.







300mm eqiv. :



1400mm eqiv. :



24mm eqiv. :



860mm eqiv. :

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Joe, that is one crazy zoom.
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I agree Ken, it looks like a fun camera with that crazy zoom !
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On that orange hook cable reel if the shooter had zoomed in at the max 3000mm we probably could read the text on the badge.
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P1000 @24mm , 170mm and 600mm eqiv.


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Yes I know the light was already hard and I could keep the camera more stable, but I did not have a proper tripod...)
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What I don't understand is that Nikon advertises 5 stops of IS. Sony, with its latest cameras, advertises 5 1/2 stops. Yet there is no way you could hold any current Sony that stable at even 12X let alone 125X. So how does Nikon achieve this @125 x with only 5 stops of IS? Something seems odd.
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