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Yes, and what I noticed in the above bird video was not only did the stabilization work well at the extreme close-up zoom but the rolling shutter performance was very good as well. Some wobbles you would see are more or less unavoidable for such an extremely narrow FoV. A seemingly tiny and gentle displacement of the camera would be very strong and abrupt movement of the framing as you see towards the end of the clip.
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If you watch this video at about 3:50-3:58, despite having the camera mounted on a tripod, the image looks quite jittery in the LCD. The stability here looks very different than the other video. I'd like to see other videos, non-tripod mounted, to see the stability.

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It ships a month from today in the US so I hope I get my P1000 at that time.
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Nikon Coolpix P1000 Exif: jpg, 1/200 s, f / 6,3, iso100, 24 mm, stand, post production in raw room



Nikon Coolpix P1000
Exif: jpg, 1/200 s, f / 5, iso100, 1020 mm, stand, post production in raw room



Nikon Coolpix P1000
Exif: jpg, 1/160 s, f / 5, is O800, 550 mm, free hand, no post production, noise reduction in room at minimum safezone value.



Nikon Coolpix P1000
Exif: jpg, 1/50 s, f / 6,3, iso100, 1020 mm, stand, post production in raw room







Nikon Coolpix P1000
Exif: jpg, 1/500 s, f / 8, iso180, 3000 mm, free hand, no post production



Nikon Coolpix P1000
Exif: jpg, 1/500 s, f / 8, iso220, 3000 mm, free hand, no post production



Exif: jpg, 1/160 s, f / 8, iso180, 3000 mm, free hand, light recovery shadows and lights in post production
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It ships a month from today in the US so I hope I get my P1000 at that time.
Be prepared to learn a new skill: Finding out what you should be really zooming in and shooting from your normal 35mm-50mm equiv. eye visual perspective. As you can see from many samples here, all is mostly lost in the viewfinder at 24mm!
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Pictures like the above is why I use these superzooms. It is hard to get stuff like that with regular cameras.
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This time-lapse has been made with a Nikon Coolpix P1000 and is as out of the camera with the "scenes - time-lapse" feature without any post production to verify its surrender.
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Fusion of 3 shots made with the automatic bracket of the exposure in the room.
The Union of the 3 jpg was performed with Adobe Camera Raw.

Exif: Raw, opening priority, 1/125 s, f / 5, iso100, 24 mm
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Review : Shooting birds with the P1000

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Exif: 1/100s, ISO800, f/8, 3000mm , free hand (handheld)



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"Yesterday I tried to crisis the Nikon P1000 with birds.
Not very difficult because we were at the oasis of Sant ' Alessio, but it was an interesting test given the hard light and sometimes in areas of poor light in the middle of plants.
My impression is very positive though in this area, especially when there is to follow action or if there is little light, camera does not hold comparison with professional machines such as the
The burst is 7 FPS, but you have to lift and ripremere your finger after the seven shots. Can Support 3 gusts in a row for about 21-25 shots then have to wait a few seconds for emptying the buffer.
The autofocus is quick and the electronic viewfinder is fluid and well legible, although during the shot it darkens and becomes a little more complicated chasing the subject.
Tracking on moving subjects instead is not easy to handle and a good reflex is always better.
At ISO high I think it is best not to go beyond 1600, in that it can be set as a value from 100 to 400 or from 100 to 800 and no further in automatic menus. The maximum limit of the machine is still 6400.
Videos Find them amazing, the 4 K United at extreme zoom is an excellent combination to make very creative filming and truly never seen before. Even being able to resume and observe animals with such high magnification is really exciting and in my opinion it is worth the cost of the camera alone.
Battery Length is very good, I took about 500 photos and a dozen videos in about 4 hours, using very often the display display, before they dump.
Can the P1000 replace a d5 or a d850 in birds? I do not think so, but it certainly facilitates the close recovery of the subject even by staying far away and leaving animals undisturbed.
For an amateur I think it is amazing because it allows you to resume with just one optics practically any subject without spending tens of thousands of euros in equipment.
However, I appreciate it very much since it is very simple to handle a 3000 mm equivalent compared to the most heavy reflex optics as a 600 or 800 mm.
The stabilization of P1000 is extremely effective and has allowed me to take almost always free hand even with times of 1/30 s to 3000 mm focal. Prohibitive times for reflex / Mirrorless with heavy mounted mounted.
Another very important factor... we don't get tired of carrying her around and always keeping her relieved to resume subjects even in uncomfortable positions.
It's much easier to move and follow a subject if you don't need to use the easel.
The quality of the shots is not at all bad though in this case a d850 or any good reflex from much better results.
However below you find videos and photos with exif data to evaluate surrender. No noise reduction has been applied except by default of Nikon capture nx-D.
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It will be good when we get some real video tests,where a tripod is used and a subject preferably wildlife is locked onto at long zoom 3000mm,i am certainly interested.
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Joe, I'm finding this camera is hard to figure out. I see some videos where the 4K video quality is fairly decent, but others like the, "Is the Nikon P1000 a spy camera?", pretty poor. In the latter, even at wide, before he began zooming, the image looked digitized. The 'Climber' video was better, but the overall 4K quality certainly seems below the cameras we typically discuss here. I guess that's not a huge surprise given that Nikon has never been known for quality 4K video. You also see in these videos, what those of us who have used telescopes for years already know, atmospheric distortion increases with magnification.

In the end, this camera may be far better at shooting stills with its huge zoom, which look quite good, than shooting the quality 4K video most of us have taken for granted. Your own 50X RX10iii clear zoom video blows any of these Nikon videos away in terms of image quality. No comparison. Personally I'd probably sacrifice the extreme zoom for the quality, but that's me.
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I agree Ken, that the RX10 III has better quality video but I have mostly been shooting stills with it and using my GH5 for videos because of 4K 60p and 6K photo mode videos. The RX10 III IS is not that good handheld at the 600mm end since I shot a video handheld sitting in a folding chair and held it as steady as I could but you could see some shake.


I also have the 4K APS-C Sony a6300 with the Sony FE 70-200mm f/4 G OSS Lens that is 300mm eqiv . My GH5 with Panasonic Lumix G Vario 100-300mm f/4-5.6 POWER O.I.S. Lens is 600mm eqiv and I also have the SMC Pentax-M* 300mm F4 that works great handheld with the IBIS.

My brother has the Nikon P900 with 83x 24-2000mm eqiv zoom and we were shooting stills of hot air balloons about 10 miles away from his home that is up on a hill and his images were much larger than from my RX10 III. I think the P1000 with my Rode VideoMic and wireless remote should work great together for videos on my HD tripod and monopod but I think I will shoot more stills with it.
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These samples just show how critical adequate camera support is at the full zoom or near full zoom. A good solid lock down on a good tripod will allow the shooter to turn off the stabilization or at least leave it on in a pure optical mode with no frame crop for EIS. This cropping varies from camera to camera but on both my super zoom, Sony HX400V (1200mm f6.3 optical) and Panasonic FZ300 (640mm at a constant f2.8) it is enough to make a noticeable difference in image quality compared to the non-cropped optical only mode. That the P1000 nevertheless shows minimal wobbles at full zoom is a good sign that if the camera was properly supported at 3000mm the footage would not turn into a gello fest when you move the camera to track the subject.
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The cheap Panasonic FZ82/FZ80 US optical is 1660mm 4k and the 3330mm izoom which except in poor light is very good,the problem it has a fixed lcd, small viewfinder, no focus ring on its lens manual focus on the lcd only, noisy af, no mic input,but its pq is good i have no problem mixing its clips with GH5 clips,i will be hoping to see films like below from the P1000 to compare.Not moon ones though

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If you want to get the maximum views on youtube with a camera test use a camera with the longest zoom available !
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The cheap Panasonic FZ82/FZ80 US optical is 1660mm 4k and the 3330mm izoom which except in poor light is very good,the problem it has a fixed lcd, small viewfinder, no focus ring on its lens manual focus on the lcd only, noisy af, no mic input,but its pq is good i have no problem mixing its clips with GH5 clips,i will be hoping to see films like below from the P1000 to compare.Not moon ones though
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The FZ82 3.58-215mm lens is tiny compared to the P1000 4.3-539mm lens so I can't see how it could match the P1000 at over 2000mm eqiv.
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The FZ82 3.58-215mm lens is tiny compared to the P1000 4.3-539mm lens so I can't see how it could match the P1000 at over 2000mm eqiv.
Lets wait and see,the difference in quality between the FZ82 and GH5 with my Olympus 300mm and 1.4x in ETC mode is hard to tell,the GH5 set up allows post crop as well,i certainly hope this new Nikon is good for wildlife i will be getting one if so.
The FZ82 may have good PQ but i have explained its shortcomings.
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If you are on a tight budget the FZ82 is great but it is a showstopper for me as a replacement of my RX10 III.
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If you are on a tight budget the FZ82 is great but it is a showstopper for me as a replacement of my RX10 III.
Yes i hope it is,it would have to replace my FZ2000 which is a very good camera but i only need certain amount of cameras and the FZ82s second hand worth is not worth letting it go.
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Joe, I'm finding this camera is hard to figure out. I see some videos where the 4K video quality is fairly decent, but others like the, "Is the Nikon P1000 a spy camera?", pretty poor. In the latter, even at wide, before he began zooming, the image looked digitized. The 'Climber' video was better, but the overall 4K quality certainly seems below the cameras we typically discuss here. I guess that's not a huge surprise given that Nikon has never been known for quality 4K video. You also see in these videos, what those of us who have used telescopes for years already know, atmospheric distortion increases with magnification.

In the end, this camera may be far better at shooting stills with its huge zoom, which look quite good, than shooting the quality 4K video most of us have taken for granted. Your own 50X RX10iii clear zoom video blows any of these Nikon videos away in terms of image quality. No comparison. Personally I'd probably sacrifice the extreme zoom for the quality, but that's me.

If my P900 is anything to go by, don't expect great video, the compression on that is pretty bad and dynamic range is bad. It is so bad that any sort of editing just kills the footage. The P1000 has a much better processor though, so it will likely be somewhat better, but I suspect anything fussy will result in poor compression (which is why the video you mentioned looks really bad - the water does it). The P1000 does allow clean uncompressed video through the HDMI port, so I plan to get a recorder to circumvent Nikon's crappy encoding (I wanted to get one anyway, for use with my other cameras, and this seems like a good excuse to do so now)


The other thing to keep in mind is to be VERY suspect about anything you see being posted that comes from some no-name or dodgy looking poster. Most of those have probably been shot on a P900 and presented as coming from a "P1000" to generate views.


Those of us with preorders should be getting our cameras in a few weeks (hopefully, assuming Nikon production is more up to speed this time), when that happens we should start seeing more credible video footage.
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These samples just show how critical adequate camera support is at the full zoom or near full zoom. A good solid lock down on a good tripod will allow the shooter to turn off the stabilization or at least leave it on in a pure optical mode with no frame crop for EIS. This cropping varies from camera to camera but on both my super zoom, Sony HX400V (1200mm f6.3 optical) and Panasonic FZ300 (640mm at a constant f2.8) it is enough to make a noticeable difference in image quality compared to the non-cropped optical only mode. That the P1000 nevertheless shows minimal wobbles at full zoom is a good sign that if the camera was properly supported at 3000mm the footage would not turn into a gello fest when you move the camera to track the subject.
On the P900 locking the camera down on a sturdy tripod and turning all the IS off results in noticeably better footage, so I expect the same will apply with the P1000.
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4K 2160p should look much better with the P1000 than 1080p with the P900. Like I said before I will be shooting more stills than video with the P1000 since I have a myriad of other 4K cameras that have better quality but the P1000 should at least match the 4K videos with my LG V20 smartphone.
BTW the P1000 has a much better tripod socket location than the P900 and not have that problem.




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"Thanks to Franceschi Paolo who reminded me of these test images taken right before climbers started climbing....
I'm really impressed with what you can pick up and from what distance with this car...
Nikon Coolpix P1000... from 24 to 3000 mm"

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It ships a month from today in the US so I hope I get my P1000 at that time.
Don't hold your breath on that, lol. Nikon seems to have manufacturing problems with every camera they make now days it seems. They all get delayed, or trickle in in small numbers, sometimes not even making it to the market at all as a result of huge delays.
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It's amazing what people would do to get views with clickbait titles.



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Don't hold your breath on that, lol. Nikon seems to have manufacturing problems with every camera they make now days it seems. They all get delayed, or trickle in in small numbers, sometimes not even making it to the market at all as a result of huge delays.
I was hoping to shoot some 330mph drag racing in mid September so I guess I might not have it by then if there is a production delay.
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