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Revert back to USA firmware ..... any links with instructions? My Xbox won’t be able to use 4K for some reason on cn!
enabled enhance 4k on that HDMI input?
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Just a quick note to say that I’ve joined the “Screen Off” club today and have parted ways with Al Pacino.

Thanks to IBNR, bennutt, and pep for their earlier efforts and posts on this and how to set up the macros on the Harmony (Elite) remote.
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Yup using discover card extended warranty. I got the check back for full amount and the tv. Your order could be in your email that you used. I had it all saved as pdf for if I ever needed it. PM you for link to the warranty. The tv does have the firmware bug that was never fixed for hdr and does not included Dolby Vision unless going to Chinese firmware.

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Samsung Q900 8K QLED 85 is featured on the home page today. For an extra 10,000 dollars, you get 8K vs our 4K, 2000 nits vs ~800 nits in Movie mode, 480 zones of FALD vs 480, HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG vs our HDR10 and Dolby Vision (CN fw), LCD VA panel vs same, and a company that is still in business vs not. Oh, and of course, no 3D on the Samsung. I’m still happy and amazed at our tv’s comparable feature set for the money.
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Is the set still on sale anywhere new not open box?
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Samsung Q900 8K QLED 85 is featured on the home page today. For an extra 10,000 dollars, you get 8K vs our 4K, 2000 nits vs ~800 nits in Movie mode, 480 zones of FALD vs 480, HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG vs our HDR10 and Dolby Vision (CN fw), LCD VA panel vs same, and a company that is still in business vs not. Oh, and of course, no 3D on the Samsung. I’m still happy and amazed at our tv’s comparable feature set for the money.
Sony's 9 series 85" is supposedly a FALD and has around 1000 nitts. Basically our TV but brighter, with Dolby Vision that works, and a company that's alive. Its 5k at Best Buy so I'm sure it can be had for cheaper elsewhere. At the time I bought my LeEco though this was not a possibility. /shrugs I'll probably keep this until something new AND crazy comes along.
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Sony's 9 series 85" is supposedly a FALD and has around 1000 nitts. Basically our TV but brighter, with Dolby Vision that works, and a company that's alive. Its 5k at Best Buy so I'm sure it can be had for cheaper elsewhere. At the time I bought my LeEco though this was not a possibility. /shrugs I'll probably keep this until something new AND crazy comes along.
No 3D though, if that is an important consideration, as it was to me...
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Thanks for the replies. I will experiment with HDMI 2.
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Any update on using HDMI 2? Or perhaps by using the Screen Off method, that would also remedy the problem.
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Any update on using HDMI 2? Or perhaps by using the Screen Off method, that would also remedy the problem.
I ended up just going with Screen off method from the remote.
With tv mounted on wall and everything neatly tucked away, this was the far easier method.
Still loving this tv and its size is always a topic of conversation with guests.

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The problem I'm fighting now is the TV randomly turning on. I moved and haven't yet fully set up the TV's so I am back to Al Pacino land. It seems the Apple TV sometimes randomly wakes up and that turns the TV on. I'll need to double check but I don't think the Apple TV's are on port 1. Oh well. Once I go back to Screen Off it won't be an issue.
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Wondering if anyone is using a Tivo Roamio HD tuner with this TV? I have a cablecard Roamio w/ Comcast service (sadly lacking 4k) w/ 1080p HDMI output and wondering if, like the ATV 4K, using the HDMI 2.0 (HDR? DV/HDR10) capable input pass-thru on the Oppo 203...if connecting the tuner via that would induce "ATV-like" Dolby Vision HDR bliss on this TV with cable TV? In other words: is $900+ for a (going-out-of-business) but otherwise superior, w/ high quality scaler+ DV/HDR input Oppo worth the $600+ delta/ over a newer, HDR10/DV capable 4k player like the LG UBK90 (but living with no HDMI input and standard non HDR 1080 on cable TV?) Anyone tried either of those on this display?

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So my Xbox One X updated itself and now supports Dolby Vision. Unfortunately, it says, “Your TV supports an older version of Dolby Vision that isn’t compatible with Xbox One.” What are the chances we’ll see an update to the Chinese firmware beyond 6.5.064S_0306?

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Well I finally got around to getting some helpers and got this beast mounted today. I updated firmware to the latest US version via USB. I will probably try the CN firmware and my Apple TV 4K for streaming once my Marantz receiver gets is hopefully imminent update to support HDR. Until then, I am using all three HDMI inputs elsewhere. Anyway having issues getting HDR from the built-in LeEco apps. Played Altered Carbon (Netflix) and some HDR 4k 60 YouTube videos that worked on my HDR-capable LG 75", so the source material should be good. Do the built-in apps need any trick or setting adjustment to enable HDR? I know I won't get DV except via USB, but expected HDR10 would work on the apps that come w/ the TV. Any advice appreciated, thanks!

EDIT: I was able to get HDR from Netflix built-in app as well as file player, but built-in YouTube does not seem to work in HDR, anyone have any luck w/ that? I assume there isn't a viable option to sideload Amazon Prime video app, or if so, remote would not control it?

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Anyone tell me what devices have the washed out hdr problems? With our tv? As in still effecting it????
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Anyone tell me what devices have the washed out hdr problems? With our tv? As in still effecting it????
I don’t believe that washed out HDR is the fault of any attached devices. It is the Umax’s bug with the original U.S. firmware. Have you updated to the U.S. fw that fixed the HDR bug (also fixed the FALD bug)? Or are you using the Chinese fw?
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For anyone who has been on the fence about using this TV, as many here do w/ an Oppo 203 for UHD HDR disc player (and its HDMI input as an added bonus), this might be useful info. I had wanted to add an Oppo, but their ending this product line as well as the crazy profiteering costs for units still available online ($1500+) had me at best on the fence. Then I found Cambridge made a HDR/DV UHD player, model CXUHD w/ the same video section and circuitry as the Oppo, minus some of the Oppo analog audio and DACs, which were not necessary anyway in my setup. Again I searched hoping they were still around, but sadly found it to be $1499 on Amazon and Ebay. Then on a whim I checked the Cambridge Audio US website, and they have a webstore and have the UHD player showing in-stock for $799. Ordered earlier this week, showed up today, she's real! No impressions yet expect glad to have gotten it for slightly less than a fortune. Have yet to unbox and hook up, or even have yet to upgrade to the CN FW (Al, here I come, I think...?)
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[QUOTE=mhconley;56981346]So my Xbox One X updated itself and now supports Dolby Vision. Unfortunately, it says, “Your TV supports an older version of Dolby Vision that isn’t compatible with Xbox One.” What are the chances we’ll see an update to the Chinese firmware beyond 6.5.064S_0306?

Martin

I'm hopeful for an update, but call me an eternal optimist. One reason, I guess, is that I keep my TV hooked up to the internet. Now, on boot up, instead of Al Pacino, there are commercials. In Chinese, of course, so something is going on with LeEco, for these changes to be taking place. Makes me hope for the best, anyway.


Still loving this TV and no regrets on moving to the Chinese firmware!
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Still re-reading through the entire thread now that I have this beast finally up and running. I know a few folks here mentioned they successfully filed an extended warranty/purchase protection claim with credit card company for the false advertised/unavailable Dolby Vision on US firmware. Any tips? What did you say, what questions did they ask? Anything about the process you can share that may help would be nice, thanks. Also wondering if anyone went through this yet with Capitol One? I may be looking into that soon.
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Finally got around to trying out the Chinese software (6.5). Added an Apple TV 4K to my collection as a source of Dolby Vision content. Then added a Harmony Smart Control to pull it all together, including my TiVo Bolt, Bose SR 1 soundbar and Samsung Blu-ray player.

Jury is still out as to whether it was worth it. Current TV 4K firmware doesn't do a good job with Dolby Vision (too dark). Prefer Netflix from the app on my TiVo, which is only 4K.

Harmony was a bit of a challenge to program (even with lots of advice online), but seems to be doing the job. After starting up the TV, the TV screen is off until opening a device, the the screen goes off when shutting down the device.

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Finally got around to trying out the Chinese software (6.5). Current TV 4K firmware doesn't do a good job with Dolby Vision (too dark)
If you haven’t already done so, the ideal Dolby Vision Picture mode, IMO, is to choose Dolby Vision Bright and Backlight 100 under the tv’s Settings menu when watching a DV program.
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If you haven’t already done so, the ideal Dolby Vision Picture mode, IMO, is to choose Dolby Vision Bright and Backlight 100 under the tv’s Settings menu when watching a DV program.
Thanks. Done that. It might just be a Netflix thing. Still figuring out all the interactions.
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If you haven’t already done so, the ideal Dolby Vision Picture mode, IMO, is to choose Dolby Vision Bright and Backlight 100 under the tv’s Settings menu when watching a DV program.
I have also noticed that the PQ from DV is kind of dark comparing with HDR when I am playing DV 4K disc like Matrix, Jurassic World.... Some of the scenes are too dark to watch and losing a lot of details from the background. Also, it seems SHARPNESS is too low from DV too. I don't know if this is the nature of Dolby Vision or something about our UMAX.
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I have also noticed that the PQ from DV is kind of dark comparing with HDR when I am playing DV 4K disc like Matrix, Jurassic World.... Some of the scenes are too dark to watch and losing a lot of details from the background. Also, it seems SHARPNESS is too low from DV too. I don't know if this is the nature of Dolby Vision or something about our UMAX.
Nice to know it's not just an Apple TV 4k issue. Will have to do more research on this.
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I have also noticed that the PQ from DV is kind of dark comparing with HDR when I am playing DV 4K disc like Matrix, Jurassic World.... Some of the scenes are too dark to watch and losing a lot of details from the background. Also, it seems SHARPNESS is too low from DV too. I don't know if this is the nature of Dolby Vision or something about our UMAX.
I’m disappointed for anyone not entirely satisfied with the DV PQ from this tv. For whatever reason, I’m not experiencing the darkness or sharpness issues personally. I know that the Umax falls short of the 1,000 nits brightness needed for the premium certification http://hdguru.com/review-leeco-umax...-3d-performer/, so this could be a main factor for its relative darkness with DV. As the user settings for DV is limited (not so with HDR10) with the CN fw, this is probably why you note the darkness when comparing with HDR programming. I don’t have any comment about the sharpness issue with DV that you see.

Though not necessarily ideal, perhaps you can tweak the PQ issues with Picture Setting controls that are available with your UHD disc player, especially if the DV issues are more apparent while watching DV discs as compared to say, DV programming via an ATV4K.
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Does anyone know if there are still any of these available for sale? Got one delivered from brandsmart late last year, may want to get a second for another room until 8k and/or OLED in this size are somewhat affordable (likely years down the line).....Anyway, any more around that you know of?
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Anyone here use an external tv tuner for local TV chanel after flashing to cn firmware? If so which brand and model and do you like it?

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I have also noticed that the PQ from DV is kind of dark comparing with HDR when I am playing DV 4K disc like Matrix, Jurassic World.... Some of the scenes are too dark to watch and losing a lot of details from the background. Also, it seems SHARPNESS is too low from DV too. I don't know if this is the nature of Dolby Vision or something about our UMAX.
I’m disappointed for anyone not entirely satisfied with the DV PQ from this tv. For whatever reason, I’m not experiencing the darkness or sharpness issues personally. I know that the Umax falls short of the 1,000 nits brightness needed for the premium certification http://hdguru.com/review-leeco-umax...-3d-performer/, so this could be a main factor for its relative darkness with DV. As the user settings for DV is limited (not so with HDR10) with the CN fw, this is probably why you note the darkness when comparing with HDR programming. I don’t have any comment about the sharpness issue with DV that you see.

Though not necessarily ideal, perhaps you can tweak the PQ issues with Picture Setting controls that are available with your UHD disc player, especially if the DV issues are more apparent while watching DV discs as compared to say, DV programming via an ATV4K.
This is the picture comparison between Dolby Vision and HDR for the movie of It via Oppo 203 player. There is no picture adjustment can be made on DV mode from either TV or player except backlight which is 100 now
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This is the picture comparison between Dolby Vision and HDR for the movie of It via Oppo 203 player. There is no picture adjustment can be made on DV mode from either TV or player except backlight which is 100 now
Yes, I was dumb to think adjustments could be made to the picture when the Oppo is in DV mode.

Sometimes I can’t tell the difference between the HDR and DV but I posted these comparisons a while back and upon closer look, the right cheek of Tom Hanks is definitely darker with less detail in DV. Maybe others can add their own experience.
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I'm hopeful for an update, but call me an eternal optimist. One reason, I guess, is that I keep my TV hooked up to the internet. Now, on boot up, instead of Al Pacino, there are commercials. In Chinese, of course, so something is going on with LeEco, for these changes to be taking place. Makes me hope for the best, anyway.


Still loving this TV and no regrets on moving to the Chinese firmware!

My UMAX is also connected to the internet and I've noticed the Chinese commercials have replaced Al Pacino. I am also hopeful based on the changing content...

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I have also noticed that the PQ from DV is kind of dark comparing with HDR when I am playing DV 4K disc like Matrix, Jurassic World.... Some of the scenes are too dark to watch and losing a lot of details from the background. Also, it seems SHARPNESS is too low from DV too. I don't know if this is the nature of Dolby Vision or something about our UMAX.
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I’m disappointed for anyone not entirely satisfied with the DV PQ from this tv. For whatever reason, I’m not experiencing the darkness or sharpness issues personally. I know that the Umax falls short of the 1,000 nits brightness needed for the premium certification http://hdguru.com/review-leeco-umax...-3d-performer/, so this could be a main factor for its relative darkness with DV. As the user settings for DV is limited (not so with HDR10) with the CN fw, this is probably why you note the darkness when comparing with HDR programming. I don’t have any comment about the sharpness issue with DV that you see.

Though not necessarily ideal, perhaps you can tweak the PQ issues with Picture Setting controls that are available with your UHD disc player, especially if the DV issues are more apparent while watching DV discs as compared to say, DV programming via an ATV4K.

I have definitely noticed the darkness of the DV picture. Here is a scene from Solo. Shadow details are lost in the DV picture but the overall picture is much better. Great for watching at night in a dark room. I can echo the recommendation to bump the backlight to 100 for DV.

I'm glad it's not just me. The pictures were taken with my iPhone. Solo is being played on my Philips BDP7302 connected to the UMAX using a Belkin ultra high speed HDMI cable.


Martin
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