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Onkyo TX-NR787 Has 9-Channel Atmos and DTS:X for $799 MSRP

Onkyo's TX-NR787 brings 9-channel 3D immersive sound for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X home at a new price point that should prove quite disruptive: $799 (MSRP).

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Onkyo is here to shake things up with the THX-certified TX-NR787. As with all modern AVRs, it's got a long feature list and a ton of capabilities. But what makes this particular model outstanding and noteworthy is its $799 MSRP, which drastically reduces the cost of entry for an AVR that has 9-channel 3D immersive audio for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X.

Despite the attractive pricing, this new Onkyo is packed with features and capabilities that are sure to appeal to home theater enthusiasts. For example, it outputs 100 watts per channel into 8 ohms and has seven HDMI inputs as well as two HDMI outputs that can handle all the latest video formats.

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Your "click here" doesn't have a clickable link, for me anyway.. I am interested in seeing if this can do everything I need! Like for instance 5.2.4? I would assume it could. Not interested in 7 floor level speakers. Am interested in stretching a 5.2.2 to 5.2.4 in time.
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Your "click here" doesn't have a clickable link, for me anyway.. I am interested in seeing if this can do everything I need! Like for instance 5.2.4? I would assume it could. Not interested in 7 floor level speakers. Am interested in stretching a 5.2.2 to 5.2.4 in time.
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Your "click here" doesn't have a clickable link, for me anyway.. I am interested in seeing if this can do everything I need! Like for instance 5.2.4? I would assume it could. Not interested in 7 floor level speakers. Am interested in stretching a 5.2.2 to 5.2.4 in time.
Yes it specifically says it can do 5.2.4. The equivalent Denon is $1600 MSRP but something tells me the Onkyo will not be that popular over here because everyone seems to favor Audyssey above all else
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^^^ Gotcha. Thanks for the confirmation. I am doing a dedicated/demo room for this AVR's application so my need for acoustic correction won't be as important (may even be totally disabled, results depending) as the regular consumer in a living room might. I also happen to be of the camp that says Audyssey mid-level version isn't remarkably better than AccuEQ. Unless you have X32 variety and I'm not paying $500+ just for that feature.

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I like bringing 9 channel down to more realistic pricing now for people not wanting to drop a grand plus on a receiver. With it being Onkyo, it will be half this price too this time next year

I saw a 676 for $276 open box 2 weekends ago. They drop pretty fast.
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Going from a older onkyo with audyssey to a new onkyo with accuflex or whatever it's called the old reciever did a lot better job at calibrating. At the same time my new denon 4400 blows both of them out of the water but that could be part of the you get what you pay for thinking.
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Sounds very interesting. As an owner of an efficient speaker system, I don't need a lot of power, but would like to have the latest audio decoding capabilities. Most other AVRs I have been looking at are north of $1,500. I just went to the Onkyo website and they are selling it for $100 less with free shipping off of their website.

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how is this compared to Yamaha A2070?
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Just became available so pretty hard to compare at this point. Wait until someone actually buys one and gives it a spin. Good price though, especially at $699 from onkyousa.com

I noticed it doesn't have preouts though, disappointing if you want to use external amplification. but I guess you need to cut corners to get that $699 price.

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Pioneer has the same receiver the Elite LX303. Just uses MCACC instead.

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Going from a older onkyo with audyssey to a new onkyo with accuflex or whatever it's called the old reciever did a lot better job at calibrating. At the same time my new denon 4400 blows both of them out of the water but that could be part of the you get what you pay for thinking.

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I found Onkyo's AccuEq on the TX-RZ1100 to be far above Audyssey on all of the Denon/Marantz products I have owned over the last decade with the last being the Marantz 8802A. I have also owned Anthem AVM60 with ARC and Dirac Live via the MiniDSP 88A. I would rank Dirac Live the best, but not by a large margin over AccuEq. AccuEq was far superior to Audyssey and better than ARC but it didn't blow ARC out of the water. In my opinion, AccuEQ destroys Audyssey. Audyssey always required bumping of the center channel for dialog, distance and gain bumps on the subs, and just sounded like a wet blanket was covering my speakers.

I took a gamble on the Onkyo and ran AccuEq on a whim. I bought the receiver with full intention of using it with Dirac Live. After I calibrated it, I was simply stunned. I never expected it to sound as good as it does. I really can't express how shocked I was. I just assumed the generic Onkyo room EQ was going to be garbage. At this point, I have no intention of adding the external amps back to run Dirac Live via the MiniDSP box. Just my observation after personally owning most of the room correction options available. I know this will be viewed as shocking. People will assume that I have been drinking, or I am half deaf....lol I get it. However, it is what it is to my ears in my room. Other rooms and equipment may have vastly different experiences. I will be replacing another Denon in my downstairs system with the Onkyo 920. I have become a fan boy with the latest line of Onkyos. Onkyo was always a solid receiver until the HDMI failure/overheat debacle awhile back. It gave Onkyo a major black eye that has made people gun shy. I am glad I took the gamble.
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This move by Onkyo is interesting. I just bought my first Denon (the 4400) after years of Pioneer Elites, and found Audyssey to be quite good (better than MCACC).

A local chain often discounts Denons (legit dealer but I want to obey the no price talk) so I'm wondering if this Onkyo will be available for under MSRP locally, otherwise I'm not sure if the 787 will be better than the 4400 if the price difference is relatively small (yes I know the MSRPs are radically different).
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Well it's already cheaper than the Denon x4400 sale price by $200 but lacks a few features of the Denon.

http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/mo...urce=prodClass

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The review says:

has seven HDMI inputs as well as two HDMI outputs that can handle all the latest video formats.

But the Onkyo Users Manual says all seven HDMI inputs are same??
And I reading this right?
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This is great news. Atmos and X together for a soon to be reasonable price. Fantastic.
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has seven HDMI inputs as well as two HDMI outputs that can handle all the latest video formats.

But the Onkyo Users Manual says all seven HDMI inputs are same??
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they are all the same. all are HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. What's wrong with that?

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I have HDMI 2.1 FOMO! Will this new Onkyo support eARC? We're within a year when HDMI 2.1 drops so Ive been waiting on upgrading.
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they are all the same. all are HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. What's wrong with that?
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I found Onkyo's AccuEq on the TX-RZ1100 to be far above Audyssey on all of the Denon/Marantz products I have owned over the last decade with the last being the Marantz 8802A. I have also owned Anthem AVM60 with ARC and Dirac Live via the MiniDSP 88A. I would rank Dirac Live the best, but not by a large margin over AccuEq. AccuEq was far superior to Audyssey and better than ARC but it didn't blow ARC out of the water. In my opinion, AccuEQ destroys Audyssey. Audyssey always required bumping of the center channel for dialog, distance and gain bumps on the subs, and just sounded like a wet blanket was covering my speakers.

I took a gamble on the Onkyo and ran AccuEq on a whim. I bought the receiver with full intention of using it with Dirac Live. After I calibrated it, I was simply stunned. I never expected it to sound as good as it does. I really can't express how shocked I was. I just assumed the generic Onkyo room EQ was going to be garbage. At this point, I have no intention of adding the external amps back to run Dirac Live via the MiniDSP box. Just my observation after personally owning most of the room correction options available. I know this will be viewed as shocking. People will assume that I have been drinking, or I am half deaf....lol I get it. However, it is what it is to my ears in my room. Other rooms and equipment may have vastly different experiences. I will be replacing another Denon in my downstairs system with the Onkyo 920. I have become a fan boy with the latest line of Onkyos. Onkyo was always a solid receiver until the HDMI failure/overheat debacle awhile back. It gave Onkyo a major black eye that has made people gun shy. I am glad I took the gamble.
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I'm currently looking for a new receiver and will definitely check this one out. The other one I was looking at was the Marantz SR7011 9.2. I just checked and saw that accessories4less has the Onkyo TX-RZ1100 for $999 (factory refurbs).

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This unit seems nice for the price. Apparently it has AccuEQ Advance. Is this new calibration software from Onkyo? I have a 2800 cubic ft. room and there stating this AVR is good for up to a 2000 cubic ft. room. Does anyone have an opinion if this avr would do ok in my room?

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i guess it's a step in the right direction, but...

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Of course, to hit this price point, something had to give. With the TX-NR787, the concession is this AV receiver cannot be used as a preamp, because it does not have the analog multichannel outputs that are typically found on pricier 9-channel models. But my guess is that for a lot of home theater enthusiasts, this is a more than acceptable compromise.
is 100% a deal-breaker. if it were 11ch, then fine, but 7.2.4 is the minimum i want for atmos, and while i am willing to use a 9ch receiver as long as i can add the extra channels with an external amp, it's simply not enough if i can't.

still, optimistically, this is a move towards a VALUE oriented product with more than 7ch, so i guess it's a start. still frustrating, because there's just no way the hardware to process 11ch and a couple of pre-outs would put this over $899, and that would be right where i would take this product seriously.

bring on the competition i guess...
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I like bringing 9 channel down to more realistic pricing now for people not wanting to drop a grand plus on a receiver. With it being Onkyo, it will be half this price too this time next year

I saw a 676 for $276 open box 2 weekends ago. They drop pretty fast.
Yes, its good for consumers, not good for the company that they have to steeply discount and take a loss just to move units. The 656 which is basically identical to the 676 was brand new for $250 last holidays.
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I found Onkyo's AccuEq on the TX-RZ1100 to be far above Audyssey on all of the Denon/Marantz products I have owned over the last decade with the last being the Marantz 8802A. I have also owned Anthem AVM60 with ARC and Dirac Live via the MiniDSP 88A. I would rank Dirac Live the best, but not by a large margin over AccuEq. AccuEq was far superior to Audyssey and better than ARC but it didn't blow ARC out of the water. In my opinion, AccuEQ destroys Audyssey. Audyssey always required bumping of the center channel for dialog, distance and gain bumps on the subs, and just sounded like a wet blanket was covering my speakers.

I took a gamble on the Onkyo and ran AccuEq on a whim. I bought the receiver with full intention of using it with Dirac Live. After I calibrated it, I was simply stunned. I never expected it to sound as good as it does. I really can't express how shocked I was. I just assumed the generic Onkyo room EQ was going to be garbage. At this point, I have no intention of adding the external amps back to run Dirac Live via the MiniDSP box. Just my observation after personally owning most of the room correction options available. I know this will be viewed as shocking. People will assume that I have been drinking, or I am half deaf....lol I get it. However, it is what it is to my ears in my room. Other rooms and equipment may have vastly different experiences. I will be replacing another Denon in my downstairs system with the Onkyo 920. I have become a fan boy with the latest line of Onkyos. Onkyo was always a solid receiver until the HDMI failure/overheat debacle awhile back. It gave Onkyo a major black eye that has made people gun shy. I am glad I took the gamble.
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This is like a lone voice against the hordes that are in love with Audyssey. Almost every request for a receiver suggestion is met with the answer than you need to get XT32, which is a $$$ upgrade, for the best sound. Which is presented as fact but is obviously just personal preference.

However I do like Dynamic Volume. Again, most people tell you to turn it off
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Yes, its good for consumers, not good for the company that they have to steeply discount and take a loss just to move units. The 656 which is basically identical to the 676 was brand new for $250 last holidays.
You may or may not answer. But.. gonna ask. Do you think the TX-NR757 @ $400 USD is way better than those two models? And is it (aside from the channels) likely comparable to this coming NR787? These are some curiosities. My demo room budget could stretch to two subs if I save enough money! But won't compromise my needs.
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You may or may not answer. But.. gonna ask. Do you think the TX-NR757 @ $400 USD is way better than those two models? And is it (aside from the channels) likely comparable to this coming NR787? These are some curiosities. My demo room budget could stretch to two subs if I save enough money! But won't compromise my needs.
Not familiar with that model, but the amp section and decoding is almost certainly just as good. The newer ones have support for newer standards like Dolby Vision etc but Onkyo is pretty good about adding these via formware updates to older models. Do a comparison of the 2 models on Denon's site or Crutchfield and decide if the differences matter to you. There's no need to pay more.
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Not familiar with that model, but the amp section and decoding is almost certainly just as good. The newer ones have support for newer standards like Dolby Vision etc but Onkyo is pretty good about adding these via formware updates to older models. Do a comparison of the 2 models on Denon's site or Crutchfield and decide if the differences matter to you. There's no need to pay more.
If they will add eARC to this like denon is doing for there current year, ill get this for the master bedroom, Ive been waiting for the 4400h to hit clearance but I dont need preouts for the master.

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Ah man, I just got the 686 and while I love pretty much everything about it, I wouldn't have minded the extra power the 787 brings. Would it be worth almost $200 more? Probably not.

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Only if you want that 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 Atmos/X speaker setup.

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Ah man, I just got the 686 and while I love pretty much everything about it, I wouldn't have minded the extra power the 787 brings. Would it be worth almost $200 more? Probably not.
The google home compatibility is also something to consider, if you're into this.
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