View Poll Results: Is Your Primary Display HD or UHD/4K?
HD 759 75.22%
UHD 150 14.87%
Faux-K 20 1.98%
True 4K 80 7.93%
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post #151 of 220 Old 06-20-2015, 08:39 AM
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65 inch Mitsubishi DLP, replace the bulb every couple years good as new and 40 inch LG Plasma secondary. 4k is not ready for primetime IMHO, Plasma is all but dead (unfortunately), OLED still too little bang for the buck and there is just something about LCD/LED that makes it difficult for me to watch.
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[QUOTE=Michael9009;35162210]Primary display is a Sony VPL-VW1100ES on a 133 inch, 16:9, HD Progressive 1.3 screen. It's been used mainly for watching upscaled content from a Sony BDP-S760 Blu-Ray player. The image is spectacular, exquisite and addictive. True 4K./QUOTE]




True 4K???


Don't think so!!!
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Primary display is a Sony VPL-VW1100ES on a 133 inch, 16:9, HD Progressive 1.3 screen. It's been used mainly for watching upscaled content from a Sony BDP-S760 Blu-Ray player. The image is spectacular, exquisite and addictive. True 4K./QUOTE]




True 4K???


Don't think so!!!

Hey linger. I didnt think there was True 4K yet? So whats Michael9009 talking about?
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Hey linger. I didnt think there was True 4K yet? So whats Michael9009 talking about?



Hi Steve,


Who knows buddy???

His BDP is SIX YEARS OLD for start!!!! LOL
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Hi Steve,


Who knows buddy???

His BDP is SIX YEARS OLD for start!!!! LOL

What is it about the vw1100 that makes you think it's not a "true 4k" projector?
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What is it about the vw1100 that makes you think it's not a "true 4k" projector?


Hi,


It is.........but then I never said it wasn't.

My post said that he is NOT getting TRUE 4K and he isn't.

His post also mentions "upscaled".............and there's a BIG difference.


Think "upscaled" DVD vs BD......THAT sort of difference!!!!!!


Even having a $28K True 4K Projector is STILL NOT enough.

You need to feed it a True 4K signal!!.......from what???.........His 6 year old Sony BDP???

As I posted earlier.......................I don't think so!!!!!


If he really wants to view some True 4K NOW......... he should check THIS out....

From: http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...d-4k-projector

"On the other hand, a big benefit to the new HDMI ports on the VPL-VW1100ES is the inclusion of HDCP 2.2—required if you plan to take advantage of Sony’s FMP-X10 4K video server and the company’s Video Unlimited 4K download service, presently one of the only real sources for 4K content. There’s little doubt that future prerecorded 4K movie content will require at least HDCP 2.2, if not some other future standard of copy protection. The Sony VPL-VW600ES and VPL-VW1100ES are the only projectors on the market today that I’m aware of that feature this copy protection support."

I would expect it to look absolutely awesome as there's no question his Sony Projector is SOTA.


Cheers

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I did my vote when the OP started the thread but I forgot to say which resolution I have, well all my displays are HD.



What display tech I have? I own both Emissive and Transmissive.

which one I prefer for dark environment? Emissive

which one in bright environment ? Transmissive

Emissive is been used in my home for - Movie night and Sports.

Transmissive is been used in my home for - News and TV shows.

what I think about UHD? well I can't tell the difference at normal seating distance.
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I think the "HD" percentage will stay as high as it is in this survey because there are so many plasma lovers on this site. I bet the number of F8500, ST, VT, and ZT60 owners at AVS is staggering.......................... (not to mention the diehard Kuro owners)
This diehard Kuro owner is still loving his Elite 151 (purchased Sept 2008; calibrated/tuned up by D-Nice).

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I doubt Pioneer's "Red Tint-orama" is an example of making things too well. Check out the last few pages of the "Kuro Red Tint" thread: practically every Kuro that people are buying used now has an unwatchable red tint over its blacks, which Pioneer has refused to fix even when the sets were still under warranty. One guy took them to court in Canada and won. Kuro is the biggest con in the history of the tv industry.
I've not experienced that with my Kuro. If I understood him correctly on his last visit, D-Nice indicated I won't have that issue with the tweaks he performed on my 151.

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Not all Kuros have this problem. My blacks on my KURO are fine. As I stated previously, people who see my TV are amazed by the picture quality. KUROs are high quality displays. Most of the displays out there now look poorly made by comparison.
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This diehard Kuro owner is still loving his Elite 151 (purchased Sept 2008; calibrated/tuned up by D-Nice).



I've not experienced that with my Kuro. If I understood him correctly on his last visit, D-Nice indicated I won't have that issue with the tweaks he performed on my 151.



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My Kuro is doing flawless duty now in the bedroom since I added the 65" ZT60 to the main room system
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My New TV ...

… is an LG 55EC9300. With so many different standards and changes in the wind for 4K/UHD, I decided to go for the best HD set on the market.
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Still HD, but honestly... How many years have passed since HD became available?

Technology surely evolves fast!
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My Kuro 151 died. I bought a 4K TV.

It converts HD to 4K

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Primary HD for now. Building new HT room with 4k PJ screen. For now plan is HD projector. Basically, wiring and PJ screen to support 4k.

I see little point investing in 4K for now unless you have a good up-converter, suitable cabling, AND you plan to sit <9 feet from the screen. Otherwise it's a waste unless you like faux-4k.
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My original vote was my main display was HD with my Panasonic 65VT60 which just bit the dust! So I replaced it with a Sony XBR65X850C 4K ultra HD display! oh well

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Currently HD, but I'm jumping to 4k as soon as a decent-quality 75"-80" 4K w/ passive 3D set becomes available around the $3-4k price range.
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My primary display is the Sony XBR930C and the bedroom display is a 50" Panny Plasma. Looking to put another display in the den.

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1080P here,

Waiting for the 4K BluRay players and content--and OLED 4K screens to go from bleeding edge to more mainstream. I think Sharp is about to roll out their 8K TVs so things are getting interesting. I would rather have a 1080P OLED screen than a 4K LCD screen so I can wait--maybe Auro3D will move into the mainstream--or not.

If I get impatient, I just go to the garage which is my land of misfit toys--a Pioneer LD player and Tascam mini-disc player greet me. Now, I just get the display AFTER the content becomes available in enough quantity and not before. Wake me up when there are 4K BluRays and 4K OLED screens with only a 50% surcharge over LCD.
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Currently have an Epson 3020 projector in the HT, Sony Bravia 55" about 5 years old, LG 47" about 3 years old and a Polaroid 37" (1080i) about 9 years old. Selling this house, taking the 3 flat panel TV's with us, leaving the HT components behind (sniff).

Looking forward to a new HT but not in a dedicated room. Family room will have to be HT room also. HT, TV, PS3, Xbox 360 (Xbox One coming with Halo 5!), DirecTV.

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1) What display? Not wild about going down to some tiny 75"-80" TV. Nothing has impressed us. Sure, the pictures are amazing, but the size is underwhelming coming from 125". Leaning towards Sony true 4k projector with a recessed (hidden) drop down screen. But then is a soon-to-be-outed version good since new models will be revealed this week at CEDIA?

2) Blu-Ray player. Our 5 year old Sony in our current family room bit the dust in a power surge a couple of weeks ago. The other Sony is staying in the HT when we move. Is an Oppo BDP-103D really worth the investment with true 4k/UHD/HDR coming in 2016?

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I salute early adopters who have bought UHD/4K displays, but I wonder how many there are compared with those who have remained at 1080p?

With the rapid proliferation of UHD (3840x2160) TVs by manufacturers, I have no doubt that many AVS members now use them as their primary display—that is, the one they watch for their most serious viewing. And Sony makes an entire line of true 4K (4096x2160) projectors, but other consumer-oriented projectors—in particular, the JVC line and Epson's LS10000—are "faux-K" at best (that is, 1920x1080 with rapid pixel shifting or splitting to simulate 3840x2160). Otherwise, most home-theater projectors are 1920x1080.

The question is, how many AVS members have made the leap to UHD/4K relative to those who have remained at HD resolution? I'm sure it's way more than the mainstream, but how much more, I wonder? Is your primary display HD, UHD, faux-K, or true 4K?

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4K with the Sony 600ES.

Even though my only true 4K content is from the cruddy Sony FMP-X1 server, the fabulous upscaling of lower-res sources to 2160 makes it worth the upgrade.
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As of this writing, the tallies are showing

UHD - 109
"True 4K" - 58

If only 109 folks chimed in for UHD, there is no way that 58 people are running 4096x2160. I think they are getting confused by the terminology. "True 4K" seems as opposing the "faux 4K", so I suspect many UHD folks are choosing True without understanding what it is.

Don't mistake my lack of reply as some kind of acceptance of your half-baked arguments.
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I replaced a 2k 50" plasma with a 4k 50" 2014 LED in January, and a 2k 60" Panasonic ST60 with a 4k 65" 2015 LED in March. Except for off-axis viewing, the new 4k sets have better pictures, by far. I watch mostly DirecTV satellite. I'm in no hurry to get 4k sources, since IMO they don't look much better than upscaled 2k. HDR has so far been a disappointment -- it looks no better than regular 4k. I'm hoping UHD blu-ray will look better, when the players finally arrive next year.
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4K with the Sony 600ES.

Even though my only true 4K content is from the cruddy Sony FMP-X1 server, the fabulous upscaling of lower-res sources to 2160 makes it worth the upgrade.
Now I will have to correct myself. Even though my Sony projector is capable of 4096, the Sony "4K" server is only serving 3840 according to the PJ's "info" display. So I guess I have yet to see "true 4K" on my system.
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I replaced a 2k 50" plasma with a 4k 50" 2014 LED in January, and a 2k 60" Panasonic ST60 with a 4k 65" 2015 LED in March. Except for off-axis viewing, the new 4k sets have better pictures, by far. I watch mostly DirecTV satellite. I'm in no hurry to get 4k sources, since IMO they don't look much better than upscaled 2k. HDR has so far been a disappointment -- it looks no better than regular 4k. I'm hoping UHD blu-ray will look better, when the players finally arrive next year.
Greg, if you tell the DTV box to simply send to your TV whatever it was sent from the mother ship (I think you can do that, no?) does your TV mostly report things as 1080i coming in? 720p? How often do you get 1080p (native signal) and/or 2160p?

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Greg, if you tell the DTV box to simply send to your TV whatever it was sent from the mother ship (I think you can do that, no?) does your TV mostly report things as 1080i coming in? 720p? How often do you get 1080p (native signal) and/or 2160p?
I can tell the D* box to pass through unchanged whatever resolution it receives from the satellites, but I don't do that. This Samsung TV, like the other Samsung TVs I've had and my last Panasonic plasma can't handle channel surfing. Every time they have to change modes away from 1080i or back to it, they have to think about it for a long time. My D* box (HR24-500) does this smoothly, so I have it set to always put out 1080i (or 1080p) to the TV, so that the D* box does all resolution conversions.

D* is not sending any live 4k signals yet, and when it does, perhaps soon, I won't be able to get them with the D* box I have. It doesn't have the capability. D* has other boxes which will do 4k VOD, and perhaps one that will handle live 4k channels (but there aren't any yet).

D* doesn't send down 1080p on any of it's "live" channels, though I think it could if it chose. It does have some VOD in 1080p available for extra dough, but I have no interest, and I have never bought a 1080p movie from them.

You would guess from the controls available on the D* box that it could convert a 1080i satellite signal to 1080p, since you can specify what resolutions it may deliver to the TV. A few days ago, out of curiosity, I disabled all output resolutions other than 1080p, then asked the TV what it was receiving. It still said it was getting 1080i, so apparently conversion by the box from 1080i to 1080p doesn't work.

All my 4k source watching so far has been from the USB disk drive sold by Samsung or the USB Vidity drive sold by Western Digital.
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If you displayed 4k content on a UHD panel you would get some letterboxing (black bars) on the top and bottom, not the left and right. You could crop the left and righ to fill up the screen, though.
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